The other Thomas Y. Gill, not the son of William and Susannah Young Gill.

Thomas Y. Gill was born abt. 1777 in Virginia, and died aft. the 1860 census, in Upson Co., Georgia. He married 1st wife unknown. She died before the 1820 census. He married 2nd to Elizabeth LNU sometime before 1850.

Children:

  1. Hiram Thomas Gill b. 1799/1800 in Oglethorpe Co., Georgia, d. aft. the 1870 census, probably in Walker Co., Georgia. He married Sarah Buffington about 1823 probably in Jackson or Pike Co., Georgia.
  2. ??Editha Gill b. abt. 1802 in Oglethorpe Co., Georgia. She married John Thurmond 29 Dec 1819, in Jackson Co., Georgia.
  3. ??Mary/Polly Gill b. abt. 1804 in Oglethorpe Co., Georgia. She married John Campbell on 08 Aug 1820, in Jackson Co., Georgia.
  4. Henrietta Washington Gill b. abt.1810/1811 in Jackson Co., Georgia, d. April 15, 1892 in Upson Co., Georgia. She married Alexander Davis Cumbie/Cumby on 1 February 1832, in Pike Co., Georgia. (unconfirmed marriage date.)
  5. Daughter Gill b. abt. 1825 in Jackson Co. Georgia, died or married between the 1840 and 1850 censuses in Upson Co., Georgia. It is possible she was a step-daughter.

I believe this other Thomas Y. Gill first showed up on the 1801 tax list in Oglethorpe Co., Georgia. He would have been about age 23 and likely married. My only caveat is that Young Gill (1766) was also in Georgia by then; however, I have not found any records indicating that the older fellow's first name was "Thomas."

Oglethorpe Co. GA - 1801 Tax List (Partial) Capt Seymour Lees District pg10

85 Thomas Y. Gill

It is possible Thomas was related to Joseph Gill Sr., who was on the 1800 census in Oglethorpe Co., Georgia:

Oglethorpe County Ga Archives 1800 Federal Census, Captain Thomas' District

Joseph Gill Sr. 00001// no females 6 slaves

Thomas Y. Gill and several other Gills were on the 1805 tax lists in Oglethorpe Co., Georgia:

Georgia Tax Digests, 1804-1806 p32

Gill, Benjamin Oglethorpe Co./le 1805 005

Gill, Joseph Oglethorpe/ht 1805 003

Gill, Joseph Oglethorpe/le 1805 005

Gill, Thomas Y. Oglethorpe/hr 1805 018

Thomas Y. Gill was in the 1807 Georgia land lottery:

1807 Georgia Land Lottery

List of Eligible Drawers in Captain Henry Hartsfield's District, Oglethorpe Co., GMD 236 ~ Grove Creek

41 Gill, Thomas Y. 2 draws

Thomas Y. Gill was a school teacher in the Jackson/Oglethorpe/Clarke Co. area of Georgia, from December 1807-May 1815, as can be seen from the following abstract of a ledger he kept. The online version of the ledger is mistitled as "Upson County, Ga - Teacher Pay 1807," but Upson wasn't a county until 1824. I suspect someone at the county historical society didn't realize that Thomas Y. Young had taught anywhere but Upson Co.

1807-1815 ledger book for Thomas Young Gill <http://files.usgwarchives.org/ga/upson/history/1807.txt>)

Thomas Young Gill: Entries from a Math book written by him in the year--apprx. 1807

first recorded in the book Dec. 9, 1807

Signed by Major Joseph Moore

Major Mason Corny

Mr. Martin Thurmon paid bill due to Thomas Gill

Feb. 29.1809

C. William Beachman

paid bill=$26.68 1/2

Rev. C. White $5.40 1/6

March 1809

C. Nathan Fowler

16.12 1/2 paid bill to T.Y. Gill

March5,1809

Robert Howard $5.62 1/2

June 26,1809

Ed Pierce

1 beef in full for his schooling

June 29, 1809

Wiley Pierce

33 lb beef =43 lbs beef

10 lbs due by Wiley

August 5, 1809

Thomas Manning

paid to T. Y. Gill for schooling children $10.37 1/2

Daria Carter

paid $5.87 1/2

Martha Wright

schooling 2 boys 16

paid 1 cow and calf=12

due $ 4

October 19, 1809

James Howell

on settlement of school $2.68 3/

Feb. 9,1811

John Rogers

3 80 lbs pk.

Feb. 11, 1811

1 bushel corn

Feb.21, 1811

1/20 bushel ditto (corn)

March 11,1811

1/2 bushel corn

March 18, 1811

1/2 bushel ditto (corn)

April 6, 1811

1 bushel corn

April 21,1811

1/2 bushel corn

May 2, 1811

2 bushel corn

June 3, 1811

1/2 bushel corn

June 24, 1811

1/2 bushel corn

Mrs Guerineaeio

August , 1811

1/2 lb powder

2 bay lead

1/2 pint whiskey

1 1/2 bushel corn

August 28, 1811

1 quarter beef

Sept 19. 1811 1/2 bushel corn

Richard Rowe children came to live with me

February 10, 1811 and paid 54th pork

March 19,1811 100 lbs of pork paid

April 17, 1811 paid 1 1/2 bacon

May 2, middlin

James Roberson began school the 17th day of Feb.1812 with scholars

James Jones of you have coffee toward the balance

of the money due me from Ously-I should take it very kind

you would send it by Hiram.

Thomas Dupree ended school with T. Y. Gill Friday

17th April 1812 and came 3 months 1/2

James Thomas entered his son Owen Thomas to school

to Thomas Y. Gill April27,1812 his part of board 70 1/2

April 30, 1812

Jack Barnett for son by 7 dollars

April 24, 1812

Thomas Jordan for son 3 yards cotton cloth

June 16,1812 by cash @25

May 5, 1812

Paul Carter entered school June 12

May 29,1812

Capt Hatchett---50 pds bacon @10=$5.00

May 17, 1812 cash lint James Kidd $2.00

June.22.1812

Richard Hargrove by

cash @ch=12 1/2c

June 22, 1812

Daniel Deupree

cash@ch=25c

Maj. Joseph Moore entered

his niece Nancy Cole to school for 1 quarter July 6, 1812

Mr. Hure sent to school the 27th day May , 1815

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An autobiography of Gideon Linecum, a medical doctor and Chickasaw-Choctaw Trader, who was born in Warren County, Georgia, on April 22, 1793, mentions his Georgia teacher Young Gill. Although the biography doesn't say where Mr. Linecum attended school, the family was east of the Oconee River, in the general vicinity of Jackson Co. in 1807. See, A Documentary history of American industrial society, John R Commons; Ulrich Bonnell Phillips; Eugene Allen Gilmore; Helen L Sumner; John B Andrews: Cleveland, The A.H. Clark Company, 1910-11, pages 189-190

"There came a man by the name of Young Gill, with his family, and made up a school, which was to be kept in a little old log cabin, a mile and a half from our home. Father entered my sister, brother and me as day scholars at the rate of $7.00 each per annum. We three started the next day and did not miss a day until father moved to the new purchase five months later. I was fourteen years old, and it was the first schoolhouse I had ever seen. I began in the alphabet. There were some very small boys, seven years old, who could read.

Whenever Mr. Gill would storm out, "Mind your book," the scholars would strike up a loud, blatant confusion of tongues, which surpassed anything I had ever heard before. There I sat in a sea of burning shame, while the clatter and glib clap of tongues rattled on. I soon accustomed myself to this method of studying aloud and felt myself very much at home. . ."

==============================================================

Thomas Y. Gill showed up on delinquent tax records in Jackson Co. in 1810:

Foreign Correspondent & Georgia Express, Vol. III, No. 128, Sat., Dec. 8, 1810

A List of Defaulters in Jackson Co. for 1810.

Thomas Y. Gill

Marriage of possible daughter:

Marriages of Jackson Co., Georgia, FHL microfilm 325652.

Image online at: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1961-25516-14604-72?cc=1927197

Groom: John Thurmond

License: 27th Dec 1819

Marriage: "Decr the 29th 1819 Executed the within License J.M.C. McNorman? JP"

Place: Jackson, Georgia

Bride: Edetha Gill

GS Film number: 325652

Digital Folder Number: 5190908

Image Number: 114

Gwinnett Co., Georgia, was formed from Cherokee Lands & Jackson County in 1818. Thomas Y. Gill was on the 1820 census in Gwinnett Co. Thomas appears to have been a widower for that census. The only female in the household was age 10-15, too young to have been Thomas Y. Gill's wife. I assume she was Henrietta Gill:

1820 > GEORGIA > GWINNETT > NO TWP LISTED Series: M33 Roll: 8 Page: 216

Thomas Y. Gill 000011//001

Thomas Y. Gill was in the 1820 land lottery from Jackson Co., Georgia:

1820 Land Lottery

Name from location land drawn

Thomas Y. Gill Jackson Co., Rogers Mil. Dist. Early Co.

Marriage of possible daughter:

Marriages of Jackson Co., Georgia, FHL microfilm 325652.

Image online at: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1961-25516-14531-72?cc=1927197

Groom: John Campbell

Date: 08 Aug 1820

Place: Jackson, Georgia

Bride: Polly Gill

GS Film number: 325652

Digital Folder Number: 5190908

Image Number: 117

Thomas Y. Gill and his son Hyram were on the 1830 census in Pike Co., Georgia. It appears that Thomas had remarried and had either a young daughter or a step-daughter in his household:

1830 > GEORGIA > PIKE > NO TWP LISTED Series: M19 Roll: 20 Page: 122

Hyram T. Gill 111001//01001

[a number of intervening households]

Thomas Y. Gill 00000001//1001001

Daughter Henrietta Washington Gill married Alexander Davis Cumbie on 1 February 1832, in Pike Co., Georgia. (Unconfirmed date/place of marriage.)

Thomas Y. Gill was a teacher back in Jackson Co., Georgia, in 1835:

HISTORICAL NOTES ON JACKSON CO., GA, by Frary Elrod: p. 147 Poor [or Free] School Report, 15 Oct 1835, including Capt Wetherspoon's Dist, Teacher Thomas Y. Gill, 3 male and 3 female scholars, pd $29.80 for the year. Original at Ga Dept of Archives and History [perhaps in governor's papers???]

Upson Co., Georgian was formed in 1824 from Crawford & Pike. Thomas Y. Gill was on the 1840 census in Upson Co., Georgia, listed next to his son-in-law Alexander Cumbie. His son Hiram was in Walker Co., Georgia, for that census:

1840 > GEORGIA > UPSON > DISTRICT 561Series: M704 Roll: 52 Page: 52

Alexander CRUMBY 21001//01001

Thomas GILL 000000001//00100001

1840 > GEORGIA > WALKER > NO TWP LISTED Series: M704 Roll: 52 Page: 61

H. T. Gill 2011101//020101

Several Cumbie children were on the school rolls in Upson Co., Georgia, in 1844 and 1845:

1844 Upson Poor Schools [My note: these were the equivalent of public schools.]

List of Eligible Children

<http://files.usgwarchives.net/ga//upson/history/1844lista.txt>

CRUMBIE James Thomas District 561st

CRUMBIE Hiriam District 561st

UPSON COUNTY GA Poor School Records 1845

<http://files.usgwarchives.net/ga//upson/history/schools/1845.txt>

CUMBIE James C. 13

CUMBIE Elizabeth 11

CUMBIE Hiram 9

Thomas Y. Gill was an Upson Co. teacher in 1845 and had a class of 9 boys and girls:

From Thomaston Archives - Thomaston, GA, transcribed by Joe Hungate (http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/ga/j.hungate@attbi.com)

1845 Upson Poor Schools

Surname Given Name Teacher

Cumbie James T. Thomas Y. Gill Father---H.S. Cumbie

Eilson John Thomas Y. Gill Father---William Eilson

Eilson James Thomas Y. Gill Father---William Eilson

Latterwhite James Thomas Y. Gill Father---T.L. Latterwhite

Latterwhite John Thomas Y. Gill Father---T.L. Latterwhite

Oldridge Mary Thomas Y. Gill Father---Thomas Oldridge

Owens Mary Thomas Y. Gill Father---W. Owens

Owens Allen Thomas Y. Gill Father---W. Owens

Smith Christopher Thomas Y. Gill Mother---Widow Smith

Thomas Y. Young was on the 1850 census in Upson Co., Georgia. His married daughter Henrietta Cumbie was living one house a way:

1850 > GEORGIA > UPSON > 86-DIST Series: M432 Roll: 85 Page: 326

HH 582/582

Thomas Y. Gill 73 School Teacher $1400 [in real estate] Va

Elizabeth 73 VA

[intervening household]

HH 584/584

Alexandria [sic] Combie 40 farmer 1200/600 South Carolina

Henrietta W 39 Georgia

James Y 18 Georgia

Mary E 16 Georgia

Hiram J 16 Georgia

Mccajah E 12 Georgia

John A 2 Georgia

Jane 5 Georgia

Anderson 7 Georgia

Susan 3 Georgia

Son Hiram was in Walker Co., Georgia in 1850:

1850 > GEORGIA > WALKER > PEAVINE Series: M432 Roll: 85 Page: 396

HH 752/752

Hiram T Gill 50 teacher Georgia

Sarah 48 South Carolina

John H 21 farmer Georgia

Sarah G 19 Georgia

Malinda J 16 Georgia

Hiram J 12 Georgia

James B 9 Georgia

Monroe T 5 Georgia

Thomas Y. Gill was on the 1860 census living next door to a grandson and 2 households away from his married daughter Henrietta Cumbie. Son Hiram was in Walker Co., Georgia:

1860 > GEORGIA > UPSON > THOMASTON P O Series: M653 Roll: 139 Page: 560

HH 168/149

Thos. Y. Gill 82 no occupation 1000/90 VA

Elizabeth 80 VA

HH 169/150

H.J. Comby 23 farmer GA

J.A. (f) 21 GA

I.T. (m)1 GA

[intervening household]

HH 171/152

A D Cumby 49 farmer 0/100 S Carolina

H W (f)48 Georgia

J A (m) 19 Georgia

A (m) 17 Georgia

J (f) 15 Georgia

S (f) 13

C (m) 11

A (m) 8

1860 > GEORGIA > WALKER > ROCK SPRING P O Series: M653 Roll: 139 Page: 780

HH 787/741

H T Gill 60 farmer 2800/800 Ga

Sarah 57 S C

Hiram J 22 Ga

James B 20 Ga

Monroe T 15 Ga

Jane Baks/Bake 16 Ga

Lewis Baks/Bake M 19 Tenn

Thomas Y. Gill died sometime after the 1860 census, probably in Upson Co., Georgia. His married daughter Henrietta was in Upson for the 1870 and 1880 censuses. Son Hiram was on the 1870 census in Walker Co., Georgia, and probably died about 1875 in Walker Co., Georgia.

1870 > GEORGIA > UPSON > THOMASTON P O Series: M593 Roll: 179 Page: 108

HH 565/565

Alex Cumbie 60 farmer 2000/1000 Georgia

Henrietta 59 Georgia

Bettie 36 Georgia

Hiram 34 Georgia

John 30 Georgia

Susan 22 Georgia

Charles 19 Georgia

Alex 17 Georgia

Mary 15 Georgia

1870 > GEORGIA > WALKER > FRICKS GAP P O Series: M593 Roll: 180 Page: 208

HH 331/323

Hiram T Gill 70 farmer 1100/300 Georgia

Sallie 68 South Carolina

Hiram J 33 larm labor Georgia

Lutitia 27 Georgia

John B 8 Georgia

William G 7 Georgia

Laura M 4 Georgia

Marcus C 1 Georgia

HH 332/324

Monroe T Gill M 25 farm labor Georgia

Catharine 30 Georgia

John J 2 Georgia

1880 > GEORGIA > UPSON > 561-MILITIA DIST Series: T9 Roll: 169 Page: 227

HH 281/283

Self John A Cumbie 39 farming GA GA GA

Wife Eldora Cumbie 18 GA GA GA

Daughter Sallie Cumbie 7 GA GA GA

Son John F Cumbie 4 GA GA GA

Son James C Cumbie 1 GA GA GA

Daughter Anna L Cumbie 1 GA GA GA

HH 282/284

Self Henrietta Cumbie 68 GA VA VA

Son Charles Cumbie 28 farming GA GA GA

Daughter-in-law Louisa Cumbie F 24 GA GA GA

Grandson Louis N Cumbie 6 GA GA GA

Grandson John H Cumbie 5 GA GA GA

Granddaughter Louisa Cumbie 1 GA GA GA

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Old Records (I will eventually merge these, but Janice's are far better than mine!  (FOC)


Thomas Young Gill born c1778 in VA married Elizabeth born c1780 in VA.  He is not the Thomas Y. Gill son of William Gill of Iredell Co., NC.  Note that there are several Thomas Young Gills in this family, and they are not yet assigned with confidence!
Additional data
Jackson Co., GA, Superior Ct Records, 1796-1803:  Thomas Gill served as a petit court juror, ca 1798.
Jackson Co., GA, Deed Book B, p. 286:  1799 deed James Cuningham of Jackson Co. to Ezekil Buffenton of State of SC, . . . 575 acres in Jackson Co. bounded by the north fork of the Oconee, . . . (see Hiram Thomas Gill below)
Jackson Co, GA, Minutes of Court of Ordinary, 1800-1822:  p. 204 [1818] application for letters of administration on the estate of Ezekiel Buffington. (see Hiram Thomas Gill below)
Thomas Y. Gill probably first appears in the Gwinnet Co., GA 1820 census, 45 or over, f <10, & f 35-45.  
1820 US census, Jackson Co., GA, p. 301:  Jacob Buffington males >10 1, 10-16 2, 16-26 1, 26-45 1, 45+ 1; females >5 5, 16-26 2, 26-45 1. (see Hiram Thomas Gill below)
HISTORICAL NOTES ON JACKSON CO., GA, by Frary Elrod:   p. 147 Poor [or Free] School Report, 15 Oct 1835, including Capt Wetherspoon's Dist, Teacher Thomas Y. Gill, 3 male and 3 female scholars, pd $29.80 for the year. Original at Ga Dept of Archives and History [perhaps in governor's papers???]

In 1830 Thomas Y. Gill probably appears in Pike Co., 50-60, females <5, 15-20, and 40-50.  In 1840 he appears in Upson Co., GA 60-70, females 10-15 and 50-60.  He appears in Upson Co. in 1850, page 326, dwelling 582, family 582, 73 years of age, a school teacher, $1400 in real estate, born in VA.  His wife was Elizabeth, 73 years of age, born in VA.  In 1860 he appears in Upson Co., 82 years of age, no occupation, $1000 real estate, $90 in personal estate, born in VA.  Elizabeth is 80 born in VA.  In 1870 neither appear.

  1. Hiram Thomas Gill born c1800 married Sarah Buffington born c1804.  They removed to Walker Co., GA c1835 and resided on Beumont Springs Road, where Hiram  T. Gill ran Green Leaf School. (Walker County, Georgia Heritage, 1833-1893, 1984 by Walker Co. Hist. Comm. and the Walker Co. Historical Soc., Lafayette, GA. from GA Dept. of Archives and History).
    1. James Hogan (adopted son) born c1820
    2. Jacob Thomas Gill born c1822
    3. Roda Elizabeth Gill died 1899.
    4. John H. Gill born c1829 killed in the Civil War.
    5. Sarah G Gill born c1831 married Samuel Baker
    6. Malinda J. Gill born 1834
    7. Hiram Jackson Gill born 1837
    8. James Barney Gill born 1840
    9. Monroe Taylor Gill born c1845
  2. Henrietta Washington Gill married Alexander Davis Cumbie (Combie).  Pike Co marriages list Henrietta "Gile" married Alexander Crumby? in 1832 She lived near her father until his death.  She left an 1827 cyphering copybook that is in the GA Dept. of Archives and History.  (information from the GA Dept. of Archives and History)  Please contact Bill Cumbie with information on this family.
    1. James Thomas Cumbie born c1832
    2. Mary Elizabeth Cumbie born c1834
    3. Hiram J. Cumbie bonr c1837
    4. J. Cager/Micajah Cumbie born c1838
    5. John Antley Cumbie born July 1840
    6. William Anderson Cumbie born 12 1/6 1843
    7. Sarah Jane Cumbie born 9-5-1845
    8. Susan Cumbie born 12-21 1848
    9. Charles Benjamin Riley Cumbie born 6-1-1850
    10. Alexander W. Davis Cumbie born April 1853
    11. Nancy Cumbie born c1855


Schoolbook Copyright ©2004,  Anita Hinton Ruffatto, all rights reserved.

This is information that was copied from my ggggrandfathers school book and thought you might want to look at it. The book is very fragile so I decided to copy the data. I sent the same information to the Upson Co. Archives Dept. thinking that they would like to include the data about him in their county historial site.

Anita Hinton Ruffatto

PS my link is : Thomas Young GILL-----Henrietta Washington Gill Cumbie-----Annie Lavada Cumbie Byard----Annie Mae Byard Hinton---Jones Carlton Hinton---Anita Hinton Ruffatto.

Thomas Young Gill

Entries from a Math book written by him in the year--apprx. 1807

first recorded in the book Dec.9, 1807

Signed by Major Joseph Moore

Feb. 29.1809

March 1809

March5,1809

June 26,1809

June 29, 1809

August 5, 1809

October 19, 1809

Feb. 9,1811

Feb. 11, 1811

1 bushel corn

Feb.21, 1811

1/20 bushel ditto (corn)

March 11,1811

1/2 bushel corn

March 18, 1811

1/2 bushel ditto (corn)

April 6, 1811

1 bushel corn

April 21,1811

1/2 bushel corn

May 2, 1811

2 bushel corn

June 3, 1811

1/2 bushel corn

June 24, 1811

1/2 bushel corn
Mrs Guerineaeio

August , 1811

1/2 lb powder
2 bay lead
1/2 pint whiskey
1 1/2 bushel corn

August 28, 1811

1 quarter beef

Sept 19. 1811 1/2 bushel corn

Richard Rowe children came to live with me

February 10, 1811 and paid 54th pork

March 19,1811 100 lbs of pork paid

April 17, 1811 paid 1 1/2 bacon

May 2, middlin

James Roberson began school the 17th day of Feb.1812 with scholars

James Jones of you have coffee toward the balance

of the money due me from Ously-I should take it very kind

you would send it by Hiram.

Thomas Dupree ended school with T. Y. Gill Friday

17th April 1812 and came 3 months 1/2

James Thomas entered his son Owen Thomas to school

to Thomas Y. Gill April27,1812 his part of board 70 1/2

April 30, 1812

Jack Barnett for son by 7 dollars

April 24, 1812

Thomas Jordan for son 3 yards cotton cloth

June 16,1812 by cash @25

May 5, 1812

Paul Carter entered school June 12

May 29,1812

Capt Hatchett---50 pds bacon @10=$5.00

May 17, 1812 cash lint James Kidd $2.00

June.22.1812

Richard Hargrove by
cash @ch=12 1/2c

June 22, 1812

Daniel Deupree
cash@ch=25c

Maj. Joseph Moore entered

his niece Nancy Cole to school for 1 quarter July 6, 1812

Mr. Hure sent to school the 27 th day May , 1815

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