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Roma of the Americas

Oral Tradition

 Roma Queries
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We have American records of: Manush, Zincali , FuriiaGarai

Family records of: FazedinMitchell, Stanley, Ziko, Locke

Welcome to the never-ending road well-travelled! Latcho Drom! (Safe Journey)  Roma, or Gypsies, were in the Americas along with the very earliest settlers, and have retained their traditions for a millennium.  There are written records of the Portuguese "dumping" Gypsies in South America, and legends of them doing the same at what is now Port Royal, SC, long before the English came. Gypsies originated in India, migrating to, and through, Europe in the Middle Ages.  We here provide a gathering place of Gypsies in all of  the Americas, and for those of us with known or suspected blood connections.  We welcome oral tradition!  We welcome submissions from all of the Americas.

Many of us have known or suspected bloodlines from Gypsies (Roma), and Romanichals (who are Roma as well).  Often these are stated within our families as being (American) "Indian," probably because these are thought more "acceptable."  Mostly because of past persecutions, which still occur, despite that fact that they are nearly everywhere, Roma prefer to remain anonymous and unrecognized, except to each other. They are your unsuspected neighbors.  They are an unknown proud minority. These circumstances make it difficult for those with bloodlines to obtain information on their elusive ancestors.  I shall try to keep this web site useful for Roma and non-Roma with known or suspected bloodlines.

Roma, or Gypsies as they are often called by non-Roma, have clear origins in India, early characterized by Europeans with dark skin and black hair.  A thousand years of co-existence in Europe has resulted in some integration and today Roma may be found in all sizes, and with all shades of skin and hair.  The Patrin web site (off site), is based in Europe, and has excellent basic information.

Many Gypsies do not send their children to school, or only for a few years, for fear of losing their culture (Well, can you really blame them? Do Gadjo actually have any culture anymore in the USA?  Our "culture" seems to be vulgarity and materialism.).  The few who do attend school are sworn to secrecy.  This means that many Gypsies do not write well.  Do not think ill of them for this.   To my knowledge, only the Jews incorporated a strong ecclesiastical education element into their culture.

I reworded these pages as "Roma," which is more correct, but the majority of hits of the pages from search engines were for the words "American Gypsy."  Sigh. One of the early servers that I used reported search engine hits with the words used to find the page.  Fear not.  It only told me how you arrived, nothing else, nor am I interested, except to make these pages more accessible, more interesting, and more factual.

Patrin reports that based on linguistic delineation Roma may be divided into three populations: Domari of the Middle East and Eastern Europe (Dom), Lomarvren of Central Europe (Lom), and Romani of Western Europe (Rom).  There are four primary Rom "tribes:" Kalderash, Machavaya, Lovari, and Churari. Other groups include the Romanichal, the Gitanoes (Calé), the Sinti, the Rudari, the Manush, the Boyash, the Ungaritza, the Luri, the Bashaldé, the Romungro, and the Xoraxai.

(Patrin)  According to Ian Robinson, America Roma are dominantly Vlax (Romanian Wallachia and Moldavia), Romanichals or Romichals (England), followed by Bashalde (Hungary and Slovakia).  

We have American records of: Manush, Zincali , Furiia, Comments on Romanian Roma

WAYFARING STRANGER Linda Griggs' excellent article.
Certified Romany Interpreter Needed job advertisement
Contemporary Gypsy & Traveller Lore (a Romanichal perspective)
Zeigler Gypsy record 1835, Barnwell County, SC.  This is one early record!
Cooks of SC
Barbara (Barbla) Catrina Fazedin, Spanish Gypsy in America, her journey. (an oral tradition)
Growing up Romani in Texas A Texas oral tradition.
Gypsy Burials and Cemetery Records The Road That Has No End (off site)
Gypsies in Rockingham Co., VA Gypsy Deportations to America
Gypsy Surnames in the USA   Gypsy Surnames (Google cache page, no longer extant)
Gypsy clans feud over fortunetelling
Romani Archives and Documention Center, University of TX (off site)
A New Book: "The Gypsy American" (available through WalMart on line)
This is "News?" or why Gypsies & Travellers prefer to remain anonymous!
Gypsy Web Sites Latcho Drom, a movie
The Zincali-An Account of the Gypsies of Spain Borrow 1843 (entire book online)
Smithsonian Section on Gypsies (off site)
The Ludar The first Gypsies in North America (off site)
Garai Gypsies
Gypsies in Texas (off site) A Photo Essay (off site)
History and Thought of Western Man, Rich East High School, Park Forest, Illinois (off site)
University of Louisville Gypsies Mini-course Syllabus English 311 (off site)
Early Gypsies in New York Gypsies in Utah (off site)
We are Roma and not Gypsies (off site) (Canada)
The Gypsy Message Board (off site) Gypsy Chat (off site)
Kathy Stephens' web site (off site) The Marginalisation of Gypsies England (off site)
Electric Library Encyclopedia (off site) The Columbia Encyclopedia (off site)
American Gypsy: A stranger in everybody's land (movie)
The Afro/Gypsy Connection (off site) The Gypsies (off site)
Fortune Telling, Matchmaking and Mummery (off site) footnotes some of these are quite old
Gypsies of California (off site)
These English have been harassed! Lamentations of our harassed English kin!
All information on this web site is copyrighted to the original submitter
Hungarian gypsies immigrated from Germany to Canada then to the US where they settled in Los Angeles, CA. Last names Pacholke, Ely. I did two DNA tests which shows MtDNA Hu1. When I ran both tests through GedMatch, both came out Punjab Indian (India), Hungarian, Ethiopian, Asian, Ashkanazi Jewish. The results also indicated North Sea and Scottish descent, which explains that in the end I am a Heinz 57. I have suspected that I have Roma background since I was five years old, after meeting my grandfather. Samantha Knight

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