Native Americans of South Carolina

From: creolada [mailto:creolada@comcast.net] Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 2:22 AM

To: FCLARK@BIGFOOT.COM  Subject: Clifton-Tyler families


I read your posting re:your synopsis of the Clifton-Tyler families of Rapides Parish [http://sciway3.net/clark/freemoors/RedBones.html].

I am writing for two reasons:

1] I would like permission to include your statement [EXACTLY] as written, rather than my interpretation, in my family tree, with the possibility that it may be included in a book I am planning to publish.

2] I wonder if you have additional information on the Tyler family in Louisiana. You state that these Louisiana Tylers came from Henrico County, VA.

If this is the case, then the Tyler surname continues from Priss Tyler's two sons: Joseph and Bartlett. Have you any records on their spouses and children?

My interest in the Tylers is due to the fact that my husband's great-great grandmother is a Tyler. We know two generations of Tylers prior, but nothing more. His Tyler grandmother married a Neal, whose father, born in Georgia, united with a woman who was not white. [We have no evidence of a traditional European marriage.] The children were legally recognized and she and the children were granted their freedom from him in 1860. His family and children were named in his will and no dispute arose as to property settlements.

None of the Tylers directly related to my husband married Cliftons, excepting a few whose maiden names are unknown to us and MAY be Cliftons

All of the Tylers in my husband's lineage married Neals, Metoyers, [a few] Smiths, and [a few] Shacklefords. The Clifton Community was started by Rachel [unknown maiden name] and Daniel Clifton. Of their two children, one wed a Jones; the other, Jane Weatherford. Jane and Jesse Clifton donated the land for the Clifton Cemetery.

The Neal and Metoyer history is well documented and I have many records on these two families.

I also wonder if you have info on George Willis born circa 1882. I was told that he married a Mary Tyler, but have not found a record on him.

Interestingly, none of the given names of Priss Tyler's children repeat in any of the Tyler lineage that we know.

I recall your statement that this group shares cultural traits, such as the women keeping their maiden names. This is also a French cultural custom and is seen often in Louisiana records. Many other groups honor the maternal surname by using it as a given or middle name for male and female children.

I come from mixed European/Native heritage and that pattern continues today. [Example: My nephew's given name is his grandmother's maiden surname.]

I hope to hear back from you at your earliest convenience.

Thank you!

Annette Wecker LeDuff

Pony Hill responds:

the 'weatherford' surname I am familiar with..possibly back to the chief Billy "red eagle" weatherford (a half-breed Creek)

of course, i do not mind anyone quoting anything Dr. Clark has posted of my research, this history belongs to everyone, not just to the person who dug it up.

I mainly mentioned the "Clifton Choctaw" families in passing as to my research into the "Red Bones"...even though they lived right beside each other, these two groups of mixed-bloods descended from the same tribal backgrounds in the VA/NC border area, they acted as though they were completely different, and didnt interact much....mostly I believe because the "Red Bone" families came to LA via the Pee Dee area of SC, and the "Clifton" families came straight in from VA....I mentioned the "Clifton Choctaw" mainly to demonstrate how a group of persons who DO have Indian blood, have documented ancestry from eastern siouan and algonquin tribes, but their descendants gradually start to claim to be "Cherokee", "Creek", "Seminole", or "Choctaw" mostly because these people know that great-grandpa was an Indian, but they don't know what tribe, so they just claim whatever tribal name is the most popular.

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