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ANDALUSIA, Spain.  I am looking for any Christian Gypsies from (Andalusia) region of south Spain or that may have moved to the USA from there. David Vinson  16 August 2002

ANATOLIAN BUMP.  A great deal of work needs to done to illume the Romany experience in America.   I hope someone can clarify a question uppermost in my mind.  Do the Romany have a cranial trait known as the anatolian bump? Do not refer me or this question to Ian Hancock or Ronald Lee. Those of us who have questioned them about this were given evasive answers such as "Uh, I don't know about that.. uh, I don't think so." The anatolian bump is a bony protuberance at the base of the skull. In size and shape it resembles half a ping pong ball, but with a depressed center. This trait is a genetic marker for central asia. My mother, who refuses to divulge our ancestery, has a prominenet one. I have one too, but it is smaller because my mother married an anglo.  Do any of you, or any of your relatives have such a trait? If you are unclear about this, can you refer me to any doctors who work with Romany communities. The jury is still out on gyspy points of origin and migration trails. I'm confused because some scholars point to Rajastan, others to the Hindu Kush area. I would be deeply grately for any information .  Sandra Redstone  Jan. 2004

BAKER, AR.  My Gypsy family comes from Texarkana Ar. And from alot of other places,  Stephanie Baker July 2005.

BAUER, Germany.  I am first generation American. My Father came from Germany in the early 70's, his father (Alfred Jenkewitz) fled Latvia, and after some time settled in Germany. This is where he met my Gypsy grandmother, Hildegard Bauer. It is said that she, along with some siblings, fled Romania in the beginning of WWII. Any clues or ideas as to where to begin??????  Carey Briggle   May 2006

BEE, Pennsylvania.  The earliest Bee that I have is one Jacob Bee who lived in the Womelsdorf area of PA and married a Margaret Ries/Rees ca 1808 at the Trinity Tulpehocken Church. I descend(my mother was a Bee) from Benjamin Bee, born ca. 1822 PA and who married a Margaret Bigham about 1847 in Huntingdon Co.,PA.  There are so many rumors that the Bees had Indian blood(I do genealogy and have not found any yet.)  Benjamin was killed in 1870 and buried and then dug up the following year. He wore golden earrings which he fashioned (he was a blacksmith by trade and his sons were too). He wore high bucksin boots with a Bowie type knife hidden in one and a Colt 45 tucked in wide leather belt. Many of the lineage on this group are dark(like I am but I also inherit olive skin from some of the Slav genes) and swarthy looking. I am just very curious about this line as it was said that Benjamin was also identified by the shape of his skull(coroner's report did not list what type of skull that he had). From this line we have inherited am odd bump in roof of mouth called a Tor?  This family moved a lot, including my Grandfather who became a tenant farmer and I still have the wanderlust.  Any clues???   B. Thornton  2 Sept. 2003

BEMIS.  ME.  My gr gr grandmother was born Mary Ann Bemis in Fryeburg, ME on April 1827 to Benj. D. Bemis Jr. b. Maine and Esther Webb b. NH about 1807. The family migrated to Michigan and Indiana.  I have just been told that Mary Ann's ancestors were Fr Canadian, Ottowan Indian, Spanish and American Gypsy.  Can anyone refer me to any source for confirmation?  Loretta Green  Jan. 2004

BONER.  Pennsylvania. My family (Boner family- Black Dutch) hailed from PA to Tennessee around 1800 (Henry Boner). We know the family lived in Lancaster Co., PA and Manheim. Several researchers in the family say the family came from the Palatine to Rotterdam as Bohner (Johann Heinrich Bohner??) thence to PA. Has anyone ever come acrost the Boner (Bohner, Bonaugh, or other variant) in PA Gypsy names? The physical traits mentioned definitly describe the darker side of my family, and even some cultural traits (such as handling pets). Does the German surname RAU have a gypsy connection?  Brant Boner 19 Feb. 2001

BRAZIL Roma.  I recently discovered Roma ancestors from Spain (Extremadura and Galacia) they appear to have been deported to Brazil. The settled in Bahia, Brazil and Rio De Janero. I'm seeking information regarding Brazilian Roma migration to the United States prior to 1870. I don't know how they came to be in the US as I can not find any references for immigration to the US from Brazil prior to 1870. I've found references to "Brazilian Gypsies" being in colonial America, but nothing about how they came here or when.   Alessandra   Sept. 2006

BROOKS. SC: Jim Bryan has a photo of Madam Brooks' trailer on his web site, and  recalls the following: Madam Brooks was a fortune teller in Allendale and she lived for years in that little trailer (shown on his web site).  I was always told she was a Gypsy, and therefore I was scared to death of her.  I never saw her, that I know of, but she ran a booming business.  I am told she got rather well off on telling one's fortune.  Please contact me with information on her, especially if it relates to our Herron family who lived nearby in Branchville, SC.  Frank O. Clark, 5 May 2001

Brown eye/Blue eye, IA, IL.  You ever hear of a brown eye/blue eye trait among gypsies. My mother's father carried that trait, and my mother and one of her sisters had a curious look about them; ruddy complexion, and sort of an asian indian look. My grandfather's mother was a "toe dancer" in 1870-90 Mahaska county Iowa. She had a very mysterious past, and used a number of names. She was very short and apparently musical and a talented dancer. She and my great grandfather had a minstrel show in Mahaska County. My great grandfather also has a curious beginning in Rock Island, Illinois near the civil war, and his real name was Ayers, but took the name Benedict when his mother, Melinda Ayers married a Cornelius Benedict in Rock Island abt 1864. My dad always claimed that a brother deserted from the Civil War and married his sister. The old folks on my mother's side readily admitted that the real name wasn't Benedict, but other names like Cash and Banks were claimed. I have traced the Bendict/Ayers connection. Melinda Ayers did marry Cornelius Benedict in Rock Island. She did have a son James when she married. Cornelius disappears. I can't find the Ayers who fathered her son James Ayers, my great grandfather. When we look at the behavior of my great grandmother as a whole, it really does begin looking gypsy.  My mother and her brother had the Br/Bl eye trait. My sister had two sons with the trait. My wife and I are light with light hair, but our oldest daughter is dark enough to be asked if she is mexican. We have a lot of mexicans in the area. I've read that both parents must carry a dark gene to have a child darker than themselves.  Karl Brumbach April 2006

CANTY, SC.  I have fair complected Cantys from old Barnwell Co., SC (Allendale), who married our Gypsy Herrons.  Does anyone know if these Cantys could have been Irish Travellers?   Frank O. Clark, 21 May 2001

CASSUTT, FAZEDIN.  North Dakota, Montana.  I seek information of northwest US Gypsies and Canada Gypsies above North Dakota and Montana.  Please contact Liz Palmer with information on this family.  Be sure and read the wonderful oral tradition. (Comments by ye webmeister:  this is the way it should be recorded: by whom, when, where, and context.) May 2000

CLARK, MS.   I am an Afro-Gypsy from Chicago suburbs and my Great Grandmother was full blooded Gypsy her name was Anabel Clark and she was born 1885 in Greenwood Mississppi and She died in the 1970ths in Chicago. Her sister was from Yazoo, Mississippi and I was wondering if she could be related to Flora Mitchell who was also from Yazoo or part of the Mississppi Gypsy Tribe. If you have any futher information on the Mitchell family or the Mississippi Gypsy Tribe please E-mail me.  From what nation did the Mitchell family come, Romainia via Argentina or Hungarian?  Robert Lee Jackson Jr.  13 Aug. 2002

GYPSY COMMUNITIES, USA.  I have just returned from a third trip to Eastern Europe within a 15 month period. I am working with Gypsies...bringing them the Gospel, as well as working with others to provide work, food , clothing etc./ I have been told that there are pockets of Gypsy communities here in the states. Can anyone help me to establish ties with these groups?  I am myself the decendant of a Gypsy family from western Hungary. Bill Tollis 17 Nov. 2002

COOK. SC.   I have had e-mails on this group of Cooks as being gypsies that entered South Carolina through Beaufort ports. They being gator trappers and such, They did settled along swamp area and they were hunters, gators and such. But have not got the proof or documentation to prove this theory. Y. Deloach: 19 Oct. 2003

COOK. RI.  Looking for the Cook family/ Murphys who lived in Rhode Island in the 1900s . Gypsies kept it a secret, although we have many stories.  Any info is appreciated. Kathleen  Dec. 2004

COOLEY, HARRISON, LEE and SMALL. South.  I am trying to get information on specific Romnichels in the south: Cooley, Harrison, Lee and Small.  I'm trying to put together my family tree. My father is in ill health and I'd like to get as much as possible before he passes.   T. Harrison Aug. 2001

COOPER, NY.  I am trying to help my wife trace her family tree. I have traced back to her great-grandparents, Harry Cooper & Laura Fant were here grand-father Willie's parents. Laura Fant was a gorjer but raised by the Cooper family. Her grand-mother Feba (Phoebe)'s parents were Chaney Cooper & Janie Duncan. They are buried in Elmwood Cemetery in Memphis. I think Chaney's father may have been Perrin, as he named his son Perrin. I found a Perrin living near Chaney in 1910 in KY. This Perrin was born in England 1845 and came to New York 1858.  Thanks, Brian Eleser July 2003

COOPER, MA.  I need help locating my birth family. If you have any knowledge or can refer me in a direction, I would certainly appreciate it. Knowing my Romany gypsy roots would mean so much to me and mine. For years I have tried. I am an old woman now, but I would like to pass this on before I die....I was born in 1939 to a woman by the name of LYDIA COOPER. My father was an Andrew Scotti. My adoption papers are from Cambridge, MA. I was adopted @ 6 months old, taken to & raised Italian in upstate New York. My adopted mother said I had several sibblings. She also told me to always remember that I was a COOPER.....I have no other information. Again, your help would be appreciated far more than you know. Respectively yours, Frances Palumbo Beck or Frances Palumbo Beck Sept. 2006

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DANCE TROUPS.  I am seeking information on Gypsy or Middle-Eastern Traveling Dance Troupes in America during the Civil War. I am working on a special project for the re-enacting club that I belong to and need to find documentation to show that such a troupe could have (or did) traveled to (or with) some of the circuses that were making the circuit during the war. My dance instructor in Portland, OR claims to have some photographs of a traveling dance troupe alleged to exist in the early 1860's.  Any help along these lines will be appreciated.  Micheal D. Cowan  13 Aug. 2002

EINSIG/EINZIG, PA.  My father and grandfather were Jacob Einsig Jr. and Sr. We are from York Pa and are of Romany descent. The name has been spelled with a z sometimes and I am trying to trace my family line but it is very difficult because records were not kept and sometimes hidden. If you have any info on this family please contact me. Connie Harshbarger  August 2005

FAA.  Would you have any contacts with the name Faa for me please,my Grandmother was called Mary Faa Blyth Kennedy. Alexander Kennedy  May 2006

DELAWARE MOORS. didn't have my dna done, but through my genealogy I'm finding several gypsy names also. Who's dna are you talking about on the results? Some of my people seem to come out of the Delaware Moor community. Are others finding this? THEY MOVED FROM SUSSEX TO THE YADKIN RIVER AREA.EXCUSE THE CAPITAL LETTERS. IT SEEMS TO BE STUCK. THEY OWNED 820 ACRES THERE BEFORE SELLING OUT AND MOVING TO SW VA.  R. Cameron Jan. 2004

Mira/Myra Jarvis, GA/TN.  I'm searching for those who have mtDNA results. I'm "J" haplogroup with 6 mutations. Of course the only result I can get is ancient ancestry originating from the "N" haplogroup of 10K years ago.  My ggggrandmother was Mira/Myra Jarvis born c.1795GA married Charlie Bates in TN; daughters interesting names of Demetria and Gesika. Demetria was my gggrandmother. Judith Dowlearn Alef  July 2005

FIDERKIEWICZ, Poland, NJ. Bergitka Roma family (North Carpatian Gypsies) from Jurgow (Poland).  Michal Fiderkiewicz Born: Sosnowiec Poland.   Ewa Gil Fiderkiewicz Born Bialka Tatrzanska (Poland) and Kayah Karolina Fiderkiewicz.  - migrated to US 1999 from Poland . Representing rare "Bergitka Roma Tribe" from Upper Carpatia.  Language: Bergitka Romensatar - Jurgowatar, Polish,Dutch and English.  For more info :  Acxon Devlesa! 16 Aug. 2002

FOWLER.  Alabama.  Searching for information on my gg grandfather, Robert Joseph Fowler, b Liverpool, England 1810 (?). m Martha Mahoney b 1815 (?) in Skibereen, Cork County, Ireland. One of their children was born in Fort Erie, Ontario in 1845 (?). From there they went to Alabama. Through communication with a woman from England, I am given to understand that Fowlers in Liverpool in the 1800's were Gypsies. I would appreciate information or websites to search.  C.L. Wolff   29 Sept. 2000

FUGATE/MASSEY.  GA, TN.  Does anyone have information on Fugate's/Massey's of northern Georgia-southern Tennessee-Western North Carolina. My mother's family were always told they were a Creek Indian/ Black Dutch(Deutsch) mix. I recently read a National Geographic article that said many of Romany origin in the Appalachian area at one time used the Black Dutch appellation.  Michael M.  27 March 2005

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GARAI.  My name is Ronald S, Garai and I am trying to find my roots so to speak and I am wondering if the article about the garai roma is a family name or just a clan of sorts as you said it is hard to find information about Garais if that is the name of a Gypsy clan I would like any info you could share with me about this thank you very very much RONALD S GARAI  Jan. 2004

GELLER.  Arkansas.   My great great grandmother was "Black Dutch." Mom says her family was from the Arkansas area. I seek info on them. I have pics of her.  Very dark, proud, and beautiful. I think my mom has Mediterranean Fever, the  doctor is checking. Some of my family are very dark, black eyes, my sister looks a bit Arabic, but I am a white skinned, red head with distinct features. Please, I seek more information.  C.T.R. Geller 21 May 2001

GILK.  I'm Ludar or Boyash do you have any info about the Gilk family?Ashley Mitchell Sept. 2006

GREEN, Southeast.  Hello, I've been researching my families in the Va, NC, Ky area.The names are Wells, Green, Porter, Hutchinson, Kilgore, Cowan, Walker, Craft, Sparks. They are English, Scotch, Irish, and migrated around together starting in Scott, Lee, Prince George, Russell, Augusta Co's in Va, also an area refered to as "Castles Woods" and "Sinking Spring""in Va, then to Lawrence ,Floyd, Johnson,Co in Ky as well as Surry, Yadkin,Wilkes, Rockingham Co's in NC. Where one family went they all went. Also in Va an area called Clinch River. The families seemed to marry within each other not often outside. They also have been noted to name all their children the same to where there are so many John Walkers, Lewis Greens,and Robert Kilgores you dont know where to start! I find nothing about them being Melungeon on line, but did see a reference to Lewis Green, Sr as being "A man of very brown complexion". what is the likelihood of these families being Melungeon/ Roma? Lots of black hair, green to dark brown eyes,some fair to olive skin noted in my family. Also the "Grandpa was Cherokee" myth that I haven't been able to totally verify yet. B. Counts 21 May 2001

HARDIN, SC, GA.  I'm trying to locate information on one of meyGreat-great grandmothers, Martha Ann "Mattie" Hardin, born about 1850-1855(Harden, Harding).  We have always been told she was Native American but having recently seen a photo of her I have doubts. Now, My Grandmother always said we had Gypsy Blood and I wonder if this is where the blood comes in. Can anyone please help?  T. Wofford  1 Oct. 2002

HARRISON.  It seems possible that my grandfather was a gypsy, and I've been trying to think of ways to assess the likelihood.I logged onto Google with the query 'favoured gypsy names' and found no matches, but did come across your article.  His name was Samuel Reuben Patrick Harrison, and he came from Ireland, possibly Athlone. One certificate describes him as a blacksmith, there's another reference to him as a horse trader. He went to live in Liverpool when in his thirties, and from there emigrated to South Africa. After that he was sometimes referred to as a 'sail maker'. He was born in 1861. Lia Young July 2005

HEALTHCARE.  We are planning to publish an article on the emergency healthcare needs of the Roma Gypsy population in an up and coming issue of RN Magazine. This magazine is a national nursing magazine, and our goal is to educate nurses about this population, it's health care needs, and how to effectively serve them.  Our authors have provided outdated references, however, and we'd like to help them get up to date. For example, we need a current statistic of how many Roma are in our country (our authors say that there are more than twelve million, but do not reference it.) They also provide advice to nurses without reference, and we'd like to validate their advice if possible.   If you can help us, we'd appreciate it, and so will our nurse-colleagues across the nation.  Terri Metules, RN, Clincal Editor Jan. 2004

HUNT (Herron).  SC/GA. Seek information on our Gypsy ancestors, who we believe to have been the second wife of Richard Herron, born c1845 and died <c1907, Sallie Hunt.  He lived in the area of Branchville, South Carolina, (Orangeburgh Co.), then Augusta, GA. His first wife was Harriet Barrs or Parrs, reputedly fair (was she an Irish Traveller?), and her children were fair. His second wife was, we believe, Sally (Sarah) Hunt who was dark. Her children: Herbert H. Herron born c1882, Charles Cumiller Herron born 1885 died 10 May 1950, Richard Herron born c1888?  Frank O. Clark, 27 July 2003.

HICE. SC.  I am a descendant of the Hice family who were of those who came into port of Charleston, South Carolina in 1867. My information so far says my family was "Black Dutch of Holland". My family is fair skinned, blonde hair, and blue eyes if this helps. I am trying to find out where they came from. I hope someone can recall this last name. I will be searching out ships records and other information I have recently obtained but any help anyone out there could provide would be greatly appreciated.  Christina C. O'Donald (Hice)  16 August 2002

IRISH ROMA.  I am Roma From Ireland desent.  We traveled from Ireland to the U.S.A.. to New Orleans in 1886 and we worked the cotten feilds,then moved all over the U.S. and we still do.  Gypsy's have a very hard lives. The languige is dieing. I would like too learn more.  Pearl Pavao  April 2006

JIMENEZ.  Searching for my great grand mother, Spanish gypsy who went to Nicaragua, visiting The city of Granada, Granada in Nic.  She met my great grand father in a circus in Granada, Nic and had a daughter, Rosa Jorgina Garay Jimenez, my grandmother. Any assistance appreciated; Don't have date of birth.  Her was name Mercedes Bersabe Jimenez, Spanish gypsy, 1800s.  Flor Gutierrez Nov 2017

JOHNSTON, OH.  My sister seems to think that our Grandmother’s family may have been Gypsies, but other than the fact that she was a card reader and rather strange person, I am not sure why. She was born in 1868 and even though I have done genealogical research as a hobby for 35 years, I cannot find a trace of her in the early census records until she married my Grandfather. She was his second if not third wife, born Emma Belle Johnston.  The 1880 census gives my Grandfather John A Wenrick and his second wife, Sarah Fundeburg Mc Adams. His occupation is “Peddler”, she is a housekeeper. She had four children named Mc Adams oldest born Illinois, second in Missouri, third in Ohio and the fourth in Arkansas. They were presently living in Shelby Co Ohio.  He married my Grandmother in Auglaize County Ohio in 1893 and they finally settled in Miami County Ohio. My grandfather was born in 1846, 101 years before I was born. My father was his youngest child born 1911 when he was 65 and my father was 37 when I was born. Information on this family has been difficult to find.   On my mother’s side, I descend from Rachel Blevins which is the “Melungeon” or whatever they finally decide that we should be called. DNA has shown them to be from the EB3 group so some are beginning to believe that some of the stories are true.  Would love to learn more about this group of people. After Grandma Wenrick died, my mother and father found Bibles all over the house with Dollar Bills hidden in the pages. I have had my cards read twice by Gypsies (at least they said they were and had some type of accent) but both had me place my money between the pages of a Bible before the reading. I have had many a reading as I read cards, etc myself and I know of no other group that does their money this way. Found it curious.  Thanks for the site, I was actually looking for Quakers. My blood line is just a little mixed. I do live close to Dayton so if I find anything more on the Stanley or local gypsies of the era, I will let you know. If you have information on them, I would really enjoy learning more about them.  Vivian Markley    July 2006

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Kinnison. KY.  I'm fairly sure that Travellers or Gypsies are in my family line.  My Granmother's Grandma, Dolly Lee who became a Kinnison was described to me as Cherokee/English; they lived in Kentucky in a log cabin-type house with a dirt floor and a cauldron in fireplace which was in the main room. My Great-Uncle and Grandmother met her when they were young, she was about 100+ years old, then. What got me thinking was some of the stories about her; she was actually a sort of witch.. meaning she sold medicines and herbs (Ginseng and Yellow Picune Root) in Louisville, she was a midwife, could dance with a jug on her head without spilling a drop; knew spells and magick. Most folks were afraid of her.  She was decribed to me as a "stringy haired White woman" by my great uncle.  This is interesting, as we are a Black family.  Every woman in my maternal line since then has been a spiritualist of sorts; today, I read Tarot cards for a living-I learned from my mom, who had a lot of books on 'Gypsies". She seemed to be fascinated with the culture; I never knew why.  Now, I was always told that my Grandma Dolly's mother was one of a band of "Indians" being forced to walk a long distance, through Kentucky.. the men were shot and the women sold into slavery. Grandma Dolly learned everything she knew from her mother, whose name has been lost. I thought these were Cherokee who had been forced to walk the trail of tears. But certain things don't add up.  Cherokee people are notoriously hostile to "witches". Grandma Dolly probably wouldn't have learned the kind of stuff she practiced from that culture.  Also, my whole family seems to be unable to stay in one place.. we are globetrotters.  Another thing.. my Grandmother (Maggie) looked exactly like some of the photos I've seen of Roma.  My mother looked like she was from India, or Black and Indian.  I have "shovel teeth, and the Anatolian bump, inherited from Grandma Maggie. My Grandmother had long, wavy auburn hair, (almost knee length)grey eyes, and and was walnut colored.  In my family, we tend to be rather hairy, which is not a Native or Black trait.. so, I'm curious.  Oh, yes.. we also tend to develop a grey ring around the iris of the eye.. and it's not cataracts. And we are also extremely susceptible to the worst Rhematoid arthritis-my Grandmother's case made medical history books and journals, no-one had seen anything like it. She literally had no joints left by the time she died.  I do know, from my Grandmother's stories that 'Gypsies' did indeed travel through Southern Illinois and Kentucky; she reported helping some of them, after most folks ran them off.  So, I'm wondering a couple of things; (1) is it possible that Gypsy people were marched along with Cherokee on the Trail of tears? Or were marched along that route?  Possible mixing between Melungeon/Black families and Gypsy?  That Gypsies might prefer to be listed as "colored" rather than Gypsy because of stereotyping and rampant discrimination?( And downright persecution?) Family names; Lee, Hill, Kinnison, Grigsby, Bowman, Branch, Butler, and Shepherd.  So.. I'd love any feedback.  Erica Lauren Butler, AKA Raven 13 Aug. 2002

KNUCKLES, TN (spelling?) Question, I am researching my family history and I have reason to believe my ggrandmother may have been Gypsy. Her name was Mary Knuckles (spelling?) born 1855 married 1868 died 1880. As far as I can tell she had no birth record, no marriage license, and no death certificate. However I cannot find any other information and I was wondering if you knew of anyone that might know something and if I could contact them? She was supposed to have been a "small dark woman" and other than those dates I have no info. Also she was supposed to have been married in Anderson, TN.  Douglas R. Scharbrough 4 May 2001

LAKE, NJ, PA. In talking to my cousin in Morrisville Pa I learned my family ancesters were German Gypsies. Thier name is Lake. I was just talking to her again yesterday. Shes 70 years old now, and can remember the relatives reading tea leaves and such. What's really strange is that everyone who sees me all my life always thought I was Italian. But I always told them no I'm mostley German and English. Do you have any info on Lakes around Trenton N.J. or Morrisville Pa? My cousin could probably give you more info if you wanted it, Her father was nicknamed the Black Dutchman. Her father and my great-grandmother were brother and sister. L. Rogers 2 Sept. 2003

LEUDAR.  England.  My name is Gus Leudar .  I live in England. My dad IS CZECH, grandad Hungarian. My surname is Leudar. I was wondering if this might be related to the LUDAR romany gypsies, please let me know at if you have any info. 27 Feb. 2004

LUDAR, I am an american Ludar gypsy born and raised in America.  I would like to communicate with other Ludar Gypsies.  If you are Ludar, please contact me.  Rudy George  15 June 2013

LOVELL. Maryland.  I am looking for any information on my great-grandfather Levi Lovell. His wife's name was Mary Helen (Ellen?) Smith. They were Romnichel Gypsies. Levi was murdered July 28, 1901 in Frostburg, Maryland, Allegany county. Any information on them or any of their children, please contact M. Thrash. One of their children's name was Irene (my grandmother). I also know they are related somehow to the Stanley Gypsies of Dayton Ohio. M. Thrash 17 Feb. 2001

LOVELL, Ohio.  I am researching the Lovell family of England, Romanichels. My paternal grandmother was Charity Lovell. She married a George Timmonds, who either was Gypsy, or was an Irish Traveller. I'm not sure which. Charity's son, Thomas Timmonds, my blood father, married Hattie Stanley (not my mother). He became a brother-in-law of Paul Stanley. My grandmother read cards for many years in Dayton, Ohio. I was born and raised in Dayton, but did not have much contact with my father's side of the family until I as well into adulthood. The contact at that time was rather brief, consisting of some conversations with a half-brother. I seek information or contacts about the Lovells.  A. Callahan  26 July 2003

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MAY, NY.  Can anyone tell me if "May" is a >gypsy name. This family (or the Shenk family) was very dark in skin. >They came from France around 1840.  Daniel Thomas Oct. 2006

MEXICO.  I am seeking information on Romany (gypsy) people living in Sonora, Mexico and in Hermosillo, as well as other parts of Mexico.  In discussions they relate that they arrived in Guatemala before or during the Second World War. I seekinformation about the groups of these people in Mexico.  Isela Hatnenn  27 March 2005

MILLS, STANTON, Missouri.  I am from a family that I know to be gypsy. My grandmother, Mary, was a fortune teller (palm reader), my grandfather, "Big Ed" was a tin smith, and my father, Joe, was a hydraulic technician as well as my uncles. We followed The Bogle Show carnival for many years, lived in trailers, and always paid cash for everything. I moved away from home at around twelve years of age, from Butler, MO. By that time they had changed the name from Stanton to Mills. Can anyone help me with my search for my family? Ted 14 July 2004

MILLER ,JONES, Mississippi.  Hello, I am searching for my dau-in-law' s ancestral lineage. Her family is said to have Gypsy link through the MILLERS or JONES.  Her greatgrandparents were: WILLIAM & ROSALIE ( ??? ) MILLER of Gainesville, Mississippi.   I think that William may be son of William Miller & Elizabeth Trail of Mississippi?  . Any connections out there?  Sande White  August 2006

MITCHELL. Virginia.  Researching the family of Nancy MITCHELL, b. 1799, Anderson County, m. Thomas Turner NEWSOM, b. 1791, Virginia. Other online researchers list her as the daughter of William Mitchell (b. 1768, Granville Co., NC, d. 1821, Abbeville, SC) and Chole SMITH (b. 1772, Fauquier Co., VA, d.1822, Abbeville). This Mitchell line traces to immigrant Abraham Mitchell, apparently born in England, came to Virginia in the 1600s. I wonder if anyone else is researching this family? Particularly, can someone confirm or disprove my theory that this line of the Mitchell family was of Gypsy heritage? Thanks, S. Bryan, May 2000

MITCHELL, SC.  I am very interested in finding any information about the Mitchell family is there a family web site or someone Icould contact?  My father's name was Fletcher Togorro Mitchell.  He was born in S.C. 1921.  I did not have much contact with him until about 1963.   He told me his father was a Gypsy  (Gypsy King?, Joseph Mitchell? & mother Maude?) and showed me a newspaper clipping from a celebration that took place I think in Florida? where it was said that he was given his weight in gold.  As my mothers family kept from me any information about my father or his family and I don't know where to start.  I am also looking for a younger sister named Cassandra (Mitchell) who I was told as a child was given or adopted by Gypsies.  I was born in St. Petersburg, FL in 1939   I would appreciate any clues. F.A. (Toni) Mitchell 13 Aug. 2002

MONUS.  NY/Hungary.  My great grandparents were Hungarian gypsies. All that I know is that they arrived in New York, lived in Miami for a spell, then settled in Louisiana until they died. They were musicians and involved with local Hungarian meetings and dances while in the USA. Our last name is Monus. Im trying to learn all I can about the gypsy way of life. Adam Monus  27 March 2005

NARANZETTA. KY/IN  I have a great uncle that I suspect could be a gypsy but I have no proof. He was married to my great aunt (I presume) but have never been able to find a marriage record.  Mollie Ethel Hart was born June 9, 1891, Bath County, Kentucky. As a young girl she ran off to be in circuses and wild west shows. On the deed to my grandfather's farm she is listed as Ethel Naranzetta.  This Naranzetta with a first name of Jack according to my father was a full blooded Indian Chief. He remembers sitting on his lap as a young boy ca. 1925. He also was in the circus and wild west shows. My great aunt lived with her brother and family in the mid 1920's-1930. The last time anyone heard from her was in 1933 when she sent a postcard to the brother (W. L. Hart of Anderson, IN). It had a picture of the Natural Bridge in Virginia. Supposedly she ran off again to live with the Indians??  Since I do not believe Naranzetta is an Indian name several have thought it could be eastern European (thus the gypsy possibility).  Any thoughts, suggestions, etc. would be greatly appreciated. P. Hart Leedom 13 March 2001

LOVELL/SMITH.  MD.  I am looking for any information on my greatgrandfather Levi Lovell. His wife's name was Mary Helen (Ellen?) Smith. They were Romnichel Gypsies. Levi was murdered July 28, 1901 in Frostburg Maryland in Allegany county. Any information on them or any of their children please contact me. One of their children's name was Irene (my grandmother). I also know they are related somehow to the Stanley Gypsies of Dayton Ohio.   M. Thrash  15 March 2001

MEGIEL, SC.  I am searching for gypsies that were in the Carolina's about 1910-1924.  I have a newspaper article that I wish I could follow up on . Dated Jan.12, 1923; Spartanburg Herald, S.C. Article about a gypsy family named MEGIEL, they set up camp on West Main St.... is that family name familiar to anyone ?  Nancie O'Sullivan 13 Aug. 2002

READMAN, SC.  I recently had my YDNA tested and so far twenty markers are posted revealing a rare J2 Haplogroup. This Haplogroup is Turkish, Greece or India. I suspect my ancestor to be William Readman, a free person of color in Spartanburg County, SC in the 1790 census. Do any of the Melungeons who have been tested show a J2 haplogroup? I am as white as snow and show no British Isle or Western European Haplogroups. I will be happy to share and compare my YDNA markers.   Rex Redmon   August 2006


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Sinti, Germany. Hello! I`m a Sinti from Germany. I`m searching for e-mail pals from America. Can you help me?  Many greetings, Bri  May 2005

SMITH, REDWINE, WALDIE.  VA, OH, various. I am tracing my genealogy to find out how my family knew the Romy language, as I still do. I was raised on the road, I went to 43 different schools by the time I was in the 4 th grade, I managed to get a college degree. I have traced my ggrandmother back to Lee county Virginia. We know the language came down thru her, Sara Matilda Smith. Her father was David Smith, She was born in 1849 and married first in 1867 to a Charles Redwine - I can't find out what happened to Mr Redwine. We know she was married several times prior to marrying William E. Waldie in 1883 in Dayton Ohio.. She had 5 children by him one being Martha Waldie, who raised me. I was persecuted numerous times at various schools when I was in grade school because of the stigma attached to Traveling People be they Gypsy or not. I met many Gypsies in my Life.  A clan we ran into, Cooper, when I was about 15 Years old tried to buy me for their son.  W. Carpen August 2001

SaCasoMorisay.  Have you ever heard the phrase "SaCasoMorisay"  It is said to be gypsy----A girl I am trying to help keeps repeating it--------can you help?  Do you know what it means--   Pastor Russ 16 August 2002

Snerb, OH.  I have always suspected my mothers family might be gypsy. I am 71 years old. My grand mother's name was Sara Snerb, Is this by any chance a gypsy surname. She was born in Cincinnati, Ohio was married in Paris France, an arranged marriage. I will have more information if this rings a bell. Thank you Renee Long 13 Aug. 2002

SPARROW.  SFO.  I am searching for a William Sparrow, b. 1831, Suffolk, England, d. 1896 San Francisco, CA. He married Teresa Wharton. Children: George, William, Jr., Richard, Sidney, Melbourne, Uriah, Arthur, Caroline, Nevada, Emma, Mary Alice & Bathsheba.  I have an article that entitled "Death of a Gypsy King" which gives place of birth and death and children's names. It also says he lived in San Francisco for 35 years.  Their child George Sparrow, b. 1861, Melbourne, Australia, d. 1943, Stockton, CA.  George married Phoebe Wharton and they had Minnie Mae Sparrow. Minnie Mae Sparrow b. 1889, Salem, OR. d. 1969, Healdsburg, CA. Minnie married George H. Musser. Any information will be greatly appreciated. Pam Sullivan  13 Aug. 2002

SPOHN.  OH.  I am researching my Great Great Great Matermal Grandmother.  All I know is that her married name was Elizabeth Spohn.  I found that she was buried in a Catholic German ( Hanover Germany) pioneer cemetery in Goohope twp, Hocking County, Ohio.  There is a paragraph about her that reads: "In reading the inscriptions on the markers, one finds that Elizabeth Spohn, born 7 APR 1777 died in December, 1883, at the age of 106 yrs 8 months and 4 days, said to have been a Gypsy Queen at one time in her career, found the peaceful community of Pine Hill to her liking and spent the balance of her life in prayer and meditation. Her brother , a musician, lead the churh choir and played the miniature organ in the old church for many years."  I have a picture of her, her daughter, and grand daughter. They look like indians.  How and where can I start my research on this part of my family?  Rita Hines  August 2006

STANLEY.  I would like to know more about Bryer Joles Stanley.  W.R.Kings 17 Feb. 2001

STANLEY.  PA. The Information on the Pennsylvania Dutch seem to fit my GGGrandmother to a "T".  The Census shows GGGrandmother as being Black. The Family have always had in question this information. The Information shows she was also a Slave under Joseph Thomas Hatch.  Rencently I was sent a Census showing my GGGrandmother was born in Pennsylvania in the year 1830. She was very dark complexed and wore her hair long and in braids. I have never seen a black woman who wore her hair long and in braids.  I have no idea when my GGGrandmother went to Louisiana. I do know her son, my GGrandfather, was born in 1856 in Alexandria, Louisiana. In 1873 she went to live in the "NEUTRAL ZONE" where she applied to Homestead property in 1882.  This GGGrandmother is on my fathers side.  I have a picture in the album of my mother with the name Aunt Peggy on the back. I never knew who Aunt Peggy may be. I finally found out through research Aunt Peggy was my GGGrandmother on my mothers side. I would look at the picture and would think she was of Indian descent. I would also think that she looked like a Gyspy from the way she was dressed. It looked as though she was wearing large earrings. Her hair looks as though it was worn atop her head possibly braided. My research has revealed her last name was Stanley.She also lived in the "NEUTRAL ZONE " of Louisiana. She was born in Louisiana.  Clifford Doyle 2 Sept. 2003

STANLEY.  NY.   Does anyone have information regarding a particular individual,"Syberine/Sybrania Stanley", who lived between 1886-1909, and whose family was, apparently, British-based,and who made their base during her lifetime in and around New York & New Jersey?  If there would be any information regarding this individual and/or her family, either during her lifetime or afterwards, I would be very grateful to see it. Thanking you in advance.  C. H. Levenson  April 2004

STANTON, MILLS, Missouri.   Dewey P. "Bobby" Stanton died along with his three year old son, Michael, on June 15, 1964. Survived by wife Helen, son Stephen(2yrs old and sent to Washington County Hospital in Maryland as a result of crash), and newborn daughter. He was my uncle.    Brothers- Joseph(Hagerstown), Mike J.(Coshocton, Ohio), Jack(Martinsburg, PA), Stuckey(Hagerstown);  Sisters- Catherine Johnson(Macon, GA), Tina Epriam(Tallahassee, FL), Marjory Miller(Detroit, MI), Dorothy Uwanowich(Greensboro, NC), Laura Stanton(Cavetown);  My Grandfather Edward Stanton(Cavetown)- Tin smith;  My Grandmother Mary (Stephens) Stanton(Cavetown)-Fortune Teller of Past, Present, and Future.   When I had my stroke in 1996 I lost a lot of my memory. I remembered this car crash that killed my uncle. So I went to the and found the article. This information was pulled from the Hagerstown, MD newspaper. It also states that Uncle Bobby was a member of the Roman Catholic church in South Carolina. His drivers license was Florida, the car registered in Maryland.  Can anyone help me?  Ted Mills(Steven Stanton)  July 2004

STATORA, PA.  I am currently researching my family history. I have been unable to trace anything back to before my family immigrated to the US in the early 20th century. I am suspecting that there may possibly be some gypsy blood somewhere in my family history. I was wondering if anyone has any information as to where i could find Polish/Russian Gypsy family names or if anyone has heard of the surname Statora (the spelling my varry because of immigration. If so you can email me at  28 Aug. 2002

SUTAH.  AR.  I am doing research on my family and came across the name Sutah Adams at Adams family Cemetery in Arkansas.   I was wondering if you had heard this name used by the Romani in America? My family goes all the way back to 1650 Virginia. There are some in the family who claim Melungeon, Hebrew and Occaneechi Saponi American Indian i.e. Mahala Adams-Corn.  Based on intermarriage in Patrick, Henry and Halifax County.  DNA test I took says 17% South Asian (East Indian-Pakistan) as well as African, Mediterranean and Middle Eastern.  Alvie  August 2006

TAYLOR, SC.  I think I have gypsy family. My last name is Taylor.  My father's side of my family lives in South Carolina. His grandmother came from Russia and married an Irish man, many years her senior.  My father has told me many times that my greatgrandfather was Irish and he met my greatgrandmother (who was 14 at the time) while she was trying to surivive the beginning of Hitler's reign. My greatgrandfather fell in love with this child pretty much, and they both came to America hidden on some sort of boat ( perhaps a boat full of goods or something, I know they were smuggled on).   My mother's side is from Germany.  When my greatgrandparents came to America they settled in Newry, South Carolina, supposedly mirrored after Newry Northern Ireland, where my greatgrandfather was from.  My greatgrandparents came over here before WW2 and started the family. There were no relatives living in the US before they came. My mother's side came from Germany and settled in Pennslyvania, except for my grandfather who was in the Navy, went to Boston, where he married my grandmother. My grandmother's maiden name was Loveless.  Valerie 27 March 2005

TIKALSKY. Wisconsin - my maternal grandmother's family - Tikalsky - married into Wenzel family. Tikalsky hailed from current Slovakia. my Father's family is Seffker. Any information to share with me is welcome.  Angie Cope  July 2002.

TINTINGER/del NOA.  New Orleans.  My great-great-grandparents immigrated from France to New Orleans in the 1860's. Their names were Nicholas Tintinger and Mary del Noa-Tintinger. My family thinks they may have been Gypsies. If anyone could share any info on the Tintingers or del Noas it would be greatly appreciated.  Jue 2004

Travellers, AR. Irish Travellers in Arkansas. Our newspaper (Arkansas Democrat Gazette) did a piece on them a few years back. I believe this was close to the time that the sensational news story came out (was it Dateline?) regarding the Murphyville, S.C. Travellers. Here they live in White Hall outside of Pine Bluff (Arkansas). They like to call themselves Gypsies which is odd, perhaps they believe this is more romantic. I did a little first-hand research of the Romany and Travellers while living in Hungary and Ireland respectively. I would love to know more about the Arkansas Travellers and hate it that I can't find those newspapers I kept for so long. I have been unable to find any information since. Cynthia Solares.  July 2005

Trbovich or Trbovic, Serbia.  My maternal grandfather's last name was Trbovich or Trbovic - presumably for around Trbovici in Croatia - and he and his family (listed as Serbian in the census) lived in upstate New York around Lackawanna, Erie County. My mother's side of the family was said to be Roma and I am looking for any possible verification. Her mother's last name was Newman - probably an Ellis Island misnomer - and the census lists them as being Syrian, although in later life my grandmother claimed sometimes to be Lebanese and hate Syrians (another last name was Unis - a Syrian name). She also grew up in upstate New York, around Tonawanda. ANY information would be appreciated:  May 2005

USSATIS.  Christian USSATIS was born 1784 (fount), died (died) on 23 May 1847 in Oaks, Preusch (Prussia) Eylau. He was bestattet (buried) on 26 May 1847 in Oaks, Preusch Eylau, EAST PRUSSIA. . Does someone have more information on this family? Dan Peterson  Feb. 2004

WAYCASTER.  I am researching my "Waycaster" family. We were always told that this side was "full-blooded Cherokee" although I've had little luck documenting this. In the "genforum" website, Waycasters are stated to be of Germanic descent.  Could this family be "Black Deutsch?"   P. Cooper 6 May 2001

WEBER, BARE, and HEIM, Germany.  No one on my father's side has ever wanted to tell my sister or me what our background is; whenever we asked their response was simply German, yet they seemed so short about the subject we always thought there was more to it. Recently one of my professors told me that Gypsie spread across Europe and that could be a possiblity for my family. I think it might be a good possiblity because everyone on my dad's side has dark hair, dair eyes, and a tan to their complexion, even my sister (I look more like my mom's side coloring wise). Also I was told that the Melungeon or Chiconere came from Southern Germany and that's where his family came over from I do believe. The three main names on his side are Weber, Bare, and Heim. Carolyn Weber 27 March 2005

WELLS, MD. July 5, 1902; Mary Wells, Daughter of "Father" Robert Wells, Passed Away.  "Mary Wells, a gypsy princess, daughter of "Father" Robert Wells, the gypsy patriach who died near Warwick, this county, has departed this life. Her remains will be taken to Wilmington, Del., and Brandywine Cemetery for interment alongside of those of her father.  The funeral sermon was preached by a Presbyterian minister. Tribal rites were held over the remains on Sunday and Monday.  Please contact Fred Kelso.  9 May 2005

WILLIAMS, SC.  I happened upon this website while doing some genealogical research. There is one ancestor of ours for whom we can find little documentation. His name is Jesse WILLIAMS, b. apr. 18, 1816 in Orangeburg District, S. Carolina. He eventually died in Tennessee in 1877. Oral family history is that he was a “Black moor” or “gypsy” from the Dutch W. Indies, or maybe that was his father. I was very intrigued when I came upon this web site.  E. Kash  June 2006

YANCER.  Please contact John Yancer with information on the Yancer family.  16 Oct. 2000

YANSERS or YANCERS, New York.  I am searching for information about Roma in New York State. More specifically, Upstate NY. Even more specifically, Schenectady New York. I have seen brief mention of a group of Roma living near Schenectady named Yansers or Yancers. What little information I have come across indicates that the Yancers were treated quite brutally and were even flogged for sport. Could someone please suggest some literature I might read to learn more about this subject. Or perhaps even tell me directly what you know about this.  I am from Schenectady and I would like to learn more about this. It is not for any reason other than a desire to know more about my niche in the universe.  Thank you.   Duncan Campbell Crary 6 Oct. 2000

 ZIKO.  Chicago and Indiana.  My husband is a grandson to Duke Ziko.  Said to be the king of Gypsies.  Duke Ziko got his crown from father, Eli Ziko.  I am looking for some info on the rest of the family said to be living in Chicago.  E. Ziko  June 2000 (Please send a valid Email address - Thanks)  The Ziko Family from all across the US  visit once a year at Crown Hill Cemetery, in Indianapolis, Indiana, or at least did so during  the 1950's and 1960's, and celebrate at the ancestors graves.

 ZIKO.  I am the firstborn son of Duke Ziko. I would love to know more about the Roma culture. You may contact me through my friends e-mail for now. T. Ziko  July 2002

 ZIKO.  my husband is the grandson of Duke Ziko and Sue.  His name is Christopher Ziko, his father is Tony Ziko.  L. Ziko.  Jan, 2004

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